Guest Locks

[Wiz]

Because we're tired of getting petitions from people who thought it was a good idea to give half the server access to their accounts and woops one of those people was not trustworthy, I'm implementing Guest Lock.

/cm guestlock on [password] will guest lock your character with the password specified. Using this command on any account without the permission of the original owner (similar to changing pws) is bannable. If the original owner doesn't play and left the account to you, you may also use this. This command obviously will not work if a guestlock is already in place.
/cm guestlock off [password] with the right pw input will remove the guestlock permanently (until it's turned back on with guestlock on)

A guest locked character, when logged into, will be unable to do any of the following things:
- Destroy items
- Destroy money
- Trade away items to other characters (can still be given things from others)
- Use the listsold system
- In any other way or fashion make items or money leave the character

In order to do these things, you must type /cm guestunlock [password] which will enable these things until you log out.

Once this is in, after a grace period of two weeks, we will no longer reimburse stolen items ever. We will still ban thieves, but absolutely no reimbursements - if you are dumb enough to give someone access to your characters without guestlocking them, it's your own damn fault.

In addition to this, I will be disabling deletion of all characters above level 10 - accounts are free so there's really no reason to ever delete characters you spent any time on, and if you absolutely need to then you can contact a GM to have it done.

[Spiritplx]

Awesome change, Wiz!

[Mythryn]

I agree, sounds like this will relieve a good chunk of the staffs stress.

[robopirateninja]

This is an awesome idea Wiz, thanks!

because I'm sure it will happen at some point, if someone guestlocks your account without permission, should you petition in game to have it reset, or is there some other venue?

also would it be possible to exclude no rent items from these restrictions, or too much work? If I guestlock my mage I want people to be able to use him without breaking their group/raid

[Wiz]

Originally Posted by robopirateninja

This is an awesome idea Wiz, thanks!

because I'm sure it will happen at some point, if someone guestlocks your account without permission, should you petition in game to have it reset, or is there some other venue?

GMs will have the ability to clear a guestlock, so you petition.

[Alton]

This sounds like a great idea, and I look forward to it.

Can you somehow limit the ability to not destroy things to items over xxx vendor value?
I'm thinking if someone leaves for an extended period and their char is in use by approved people but locked, eventually you're going to want to be able to destroy little things. As in I looted a spider leg and now its stuck in my inventory forever. Or I foraged an oak branch.

Also, i imagine you've thought of this, but how does this effect tradeskill combines? It isn't going to stop the reagents from being eaten up or anything, is it? =p

[Alton]

Then again I suppose ts combines might not matter.
If the char is guest locked, you can't send the result to anyone else anyway...

[Wiz]

Originally Posted by Alton

This sounds like a great idea, and I look forward to it.

Can you somehow limit the ability to not destroy things to items over xxx vendor value?
I'm thinking if someone leaves for an extended period and their char is in use by approved people but locked, eventually you're going to want to be able to destroy little things. As in I looted a spider leg and now its stuck in my inventory forever. Or I foraged an oak branch.

Also, i imagine you've thought of this, but how does this effect tradeskill combines? It isn't going to stop the reagents from being eaten up or anything, is it? =p

I'm not gonna differentiate based on value, they will just have to refrain from looting spider legs or whatever. TS combines will work normally.

[Finkk]

smart thinkin Wiz

[iaeolan]

Any way to link a guest lock w/ IP so the owner does not need to turn this on and off all the time?

Same command with password and all, just remembers IP it was locked on and allows that IP to act normally.

Great addition regardless

[Wiz]

Originally Posted by iaeolan

Any way to link a guest lock w/ IP so the owner does not need to turn this on and off all the time?

Same command with password and all, just remembers IP it was locked on and allows that IP to act normally.

Great addition regardless

I'd rather not, we've had plenty of cases of siblings stealing from siblings etc. You can just hotkey it if trusting other people in your household is not an issue.

[Retkov]

Just something to think about, how will you make the password settable? It wont be effective if its the account pw since the other people already know that.

Was thinking set a default and manage it through the registration thing on the website.

Acc Name
PW
ReEnter PW
Current GuestPW(leave blank the first time or default)

New PW
New GLock

something like that

[Malleus]

Originally Posted by Wiz

/cm guestlock on [password] will guest lock your character with the password specified.

[Ikaa|LoveYums]

Your question was answered in the opening post

Originally Posted by Wiz

/cm guestlock on [password] will guest lock your character with the password specified. Using this command on any account without the permission of the original owner (similar to changing pws) is bannable. If the original owner doesn't play and left the account to you, you may also use this. This command obviously will not work if a guestlock is already in place.

If you happen to make both your login AND guestlock the same password, you still get nothing reimbursed, because thats just dumb.

[Tempus]

Originally Posted by Ikaa/Osimi

Your question was answered in the opening post

If you happen to make both your login AND guestlock the same password, you still get nothing reimbursed, because thats just dumb.

I am using "12345" for mine. Is this a bad idea? y/n/p

[JayelleNephilim]

I'm pretty excited about this change! Great idea Wiz!

[GuiardoTuneweaver]

Originally Posted by Tempus

I am using "12345" for mine. Is this a bad idea? y/n/p

So the combination is one, two, three, four, five? That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life! The kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!

[ryutakin]

Good job quoting spaceballs


Nice change Wiz! Hopefully the staff should be much happier now

[Allielyn]

Originally Posted by Wiz

GMs will have the ability to clear a guestlock, so you petition.

Actually I'd rather not have this - it's not as easy when someone is on the character in game to know whether that someone is the "original owner" or not. More like go through the email recovery system to do something like that.

[JayelleNephilim]

Originally Posted by Allielyn

Actually I'd rather not have this - it's not as easy when someone is on the character in game to know whether that someone is the "original owner" or not. More like go through the email recovery system to do something like that.

Yea, that's actually a really good point. It also kinda puts us in the middle again, which I was hoping this idea would negate.