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gummythetroll
03-17-2004, 07:47 PM
Im not sure if this is the right place to bring this up but none of the other forums seemed suitable either.


Something was changed with pet aggro recently and It has made soloing as a shaman or beastlord, impossible.

Soloing as a beastlord, my pet now GIVES me aggro when it procs its taunt proc insetad of getting aggro, which obviously is something very very wrong.

The whole point of the pet proc for BL's is that the pet gains aggro and is able to hold aggro off the BL. Needless to say, I now spend my time running in circles even if I havent landed a single point of dmg on the mob, because when the pet attacks, the mob comes straight for me regardless.


I know other beastlords, shamans, mages and chanters who have also claimed it is now impossible to solo due to these changes in aggro.

In particular, it renders the BL class useless because we rely on our pets to keep aggro off us.

DoctorGonzo
03-17-2004, 08:14 PM
Not sure if you ever played on live but on there, if a PC is in melee range of a mob, the mob will attack the PC regardless of if an NPC (pet) has the most aggro.

Be thankful that pets can tank at all here.

Jdogfour20
03-17-2004, 11:30 PM
I agree, it has become veryhard to solo with my mage. Although i can still do it the argro is to much. i let my pet beat the mob to 25% cast a nuke and it still comes after me. or if i heal my pet it comes after me.

gummythetroll
03-17-2004, 11:43 PM
Gonzo, i played live for 3 years.

and with all due respect I dont think you understand what it is exactly we're talking about.

its not that pets cant tank anymore...its that they dont get ANY aggro whatsoever.

On top of that, Beastlords can imbue their pets with pet procs which are always a DD based one of the elements + TAUNT.

This element has been removed completely. Infact when the pet procs now, the mob gets heavy aggro on The beastlord instead. Its completely ludicrous, Its like changing a cleric's complete heal to heal the mob instead of the player.

Groop
03-18-2004, 02:16 AM
Same goes for necros, my pet will fight it down to 20%, I cast a level one spell, both tap or DoT, and it comes after me as soon as I sit down. Sometimes I can't sit down at all even if i do not cast anything. And if a mob happens to aggro on me, it's impossible for my pet to pull it off even if i don't do anything.

DoctorGonzo
03-18-2004, 03:34 AM
No need to explain the beastlord class to me; I sold a 65 beastlord and monk off long ago.

I don't have any issues with my shaman's pet holding aggro, and I'm casting slow/debuff on them.

If it's an issue with a pet buff causing this problem that's one thing, but if my pussy unbuffed shaman pet can keep aggro off me after slowing and debuffing, I don't see how a beastlord pet can't.

Houwser
03-18-2004, 03:44 AM
Same goes for necros, my pet will fight it down to 20%, I cast a level one spell, both tap or DoT, and it comes after me as soon as I sit down. Sometimes I can't sit down at all even if i do not cast anything. And if a mob happens to aggro on me, it's impossible for my pet to pull it off even if i don't do anything.

Acutually as far as I know, since the server has its custom rules and all that modified AI stuff, this is normal. Some mobs have a thing where they attack you if you sit. I can't recall if this has been changed because i remember a patch were sitting aggro had been changed a bit so i dont know which way it went. I remember in DN where necros could kite their mobs by sitting and having the pet beat on their back.

Wiz
03-18-2004, 10:23 AM
The problem is how people have been abusing the decent pet aggro to their hearts' contents. I will change pet aggro to not be as ridiculously low, but it will still be lower than before.

Darkmidget
03-18-2004, 07:46 PM
Alright people, if you wanna cry about pet aggro go play live then come back. you will have reknewed respect. And second off, I don't see what the problem is. I can cast 3 dots on a mob and it still wont come after me. Although when it sits it comes for me, but thats a good thing. Adjust to it.


Bad players complain. Good players adjust.

ChickenBoo
03-19-2004, 06:09 PM
The thing that gets me is that my pet is no longer a reliable agro holder for when i am grouping. Before my pet could hold agro so that mobs didnt ping pong and this was nice because there are not an abundance of tank class characters out there. Now its just one less thing a BL can bring to a raid, currently im relagated to pretty much casting purity once an hour and either casting my 430 pt dd or melee like a bard.


Vekin

mwh
03-20-2004, 06:05 AM
Pets were ridiculous before, it was virtually impossible for me to get aggro from a pet no matter what I did. That wasnt too bad though, since they could also TANK better than I could. Think about it for a second, wizzy has all the data in front of him, and he said they both tanked better and outdamaged SKs. Think about how silly that was, and realize maybe you should be complaining less on this thread, and thanking wizzy that he left it in long enough for you to coast up to highlvl with your "party of one".


Khalid

zodium
03-20-2004, 08:38 AM
The thing that gets me is that my pet is no longer a reliable agro holder for when i am grouping. Before my pet could hold agro so that mobs didnt ping pong and this was nice because there are not an abundance of tank class characters out there. Now its just one less thing a BL can bring to a raid, currently im relagated to pretty much casting purity once an hour and either casting my 430 pt dd or melee like a bard.


Vekin

Beastlord pets or any kind of pet should not be tanking on even a Cryo raid.