This server just sucks arses... alot

[Ancelique]

Ok i walk in into this server..
and on every zone i do i crash like 5 times... if it is not 10 times..
then my son levels a Vah shir to lvl 5 and then he got the error message.. we not supporting your class...
soo he created a new char.. but he still got a bit annoyed.. cant blame hime.
WTF... why didnt he got that message when he was lvl 1.. But Ok.. we not annoyed..
Then we go level.. and Leather armor seems to be VERY Uber cause i got 1 piece of it at lvl 20... LMAO
Then i had a group and some GM walked into it and needed to kill my group..
Err............................................ WTF .. what kind of server is this????
i dont think this is fun.. this is just retared..
if i cant get leather armor at lvl 20 and iam getting nice exp and some GM is walking in and is killing my group.. then i think your guys on the wrong track,, that is no fun,, that is just plain BS.
And yup/.. for your infor i called that GM a few names...
Now go ban me but this is just BS

[Sean]

I'm not going to delete this thread yet. You're far too funny.

For starters: Vah Shir have never been supported on WR. The character should have been kicked back to character select a few seconds after it logged in.

For second: Bahahahahahahahaha. Please. If you're going to come along and spew like this, at least bring some details. What's your name? What's your son's name? What GM was this? When? What zone?


By the way: Door's to your left.

[Ancelique]

mrs. funny the char was accepted till lvl 5 and you as Mrs. GM should know better . Sjitty Gm's should know better insteed of showing their power.. Duh. Your made a GM to help peoples, not to show peoples your power /smack

[Sean]

Well I'm trying to help here, but you aren't giving me much to go on.

From what I've collected you're a level 20 Beastlord with horrible equipment. Okaaaay.

And.. let's see.. Your son, who apparently was a female Vah Shir through some bug in the kick system, died in a GM event and started whining extensively.

That would be Mr. Funny, by the way. I am not a married woman.

And I'm not a GM to help people. I create content. Sorry! :sadf:

[Ancelique]

Then next time leave us alone so we wont get killed :P

[Sean]

Are you aware that you're not making a whole hell of a lot of sense?

[Wiz]

Ok i walk in into this server..
and on every zone i do i crash like 5 times... if it is not 10 times..
then my son levels a Vah shir to lvl 5 and then he got the error message.. we not supporting your class...
soo he created a new char.. but he still got a bit annoyed.. cant blame hime.
WTF... why didnt he got that message when he was lvl 1.. But Ok.. we not annoyed..
Then we go level.. and Leather armor seems to be VERY Uber cause i got 1 piece of it at lvl 20... LMAO
Then i had a group and some GM walked into it and needed to kill my group..
Err............................................ WTF .. what kind of server is this????
i dont think this is fun.. this is just retared..
if i cant get leather armor at lvl 20 and iam getting nice exp and some GM is walking in and is killing my group.. then i think your guys on the wrong track,, that is no fun,, that is just plain BS.
And yup/.. for your infor i called that GM a few names...
Now go ban me but this is just BS

So. Because you can't spend a few gold to buy the (very cheap) leather armor at store or say, hunt for soft leather, because your son's Vah Shir somehow surpassed the system, because your son died in a GM event... wtf?

Are you expecting us to do what, exactly? This random whining is pretty damn pointless. Should we stop with GM events because occasionally they might be inconvenient for you? Should we have planar armor drop on unrest zombies?

I'm aware that zones have been crashing, boo fucking hoo, we're working to find the solution. Are you aware that you are playing on a free server ran by people to volunteer? Are you aware that we are not getting paid to fix these problems? WR is way more evolved than any other server, and we *work* to solve problems like these crashes, but -guess what-, occasionally it takes a few days.

Now shut up already.

[robsson]

Ancelique:

Remember the server is in BETA stage and that means you probably will find a bug every now and then.

Talkin about the vah shir issues...
Instead of making a thread like this, why not just report the bug on the forum? That would probably be the best thing to do instead of complaining, if ya want stuff fixed the GMs will work on it. Personally, I don't find it a valid reason to make a bitch thread because of your son's problem.

Anyways, zone crashing is a problem which will be solved when the new version of eqemulator comes out... or when they find the actual solution, which is deep into the source code.

The GM events are a cool part of this server. I have had lots of fun with those. And I never really felt that my group got killed during one, so maybe you were just unlucky.

Also, GM events often provide loot which you need or is even better than the average equipment standard for your level.

I'm not a GM and I enjoy this server and I know many others do. From what I have noticed in the leveling progress, some areas are better for exp and some are better for loot. Once you hit nurga you will find skulker equipment which will be a nice upgrade for you as a beastlord (if it's BL usable, don't remember but I think so). Nurga is for 30+ something though, so you still have some levling to do. Btw, nurga is also a nice exp zone *hint hint*.

A very cool exp And good equipment zone for like level 5 to 35 is unrest. It provides quest pieces needed for some decent equipment (I actually had it until level 50 or so). You turn those in at the othmirs in Cobalt Scar.

Although, I have no idea why I explain all this to you, because you have been very rude so far. But I myself was pissed on this server right when I started because of some bugs like zone crashing etc etc. So I kinda know how ya feel, but I never bitched about it in public ;)

my 2 copper

[Wiz]

To sum it all up, childish spouts will get you absolutely nowhere on this server. Noone's gonna ban you for looking stupid, and noone's going to listen to your complaints either.

If you have valid suggestions, then present them as such. Think it's too hard to get equipment? Then post such.

That said, I would strongly recommend you and your friends pay The Hole a visit. It's a level 20+ zone here, and has a good amount of nice loot.

[Foonie]

Ok, I feel that people should know what really happend:
He, the Beastlord, I, as both a ranger and druid, was killing stuff in Warrens (by kings room). We were doing fine, was FoM most of the time on druid, and king wasn't up (if he exists). So we do some killing and a pull somehow goes wrong, so we get two agroes, I spam heal ranger, while we get one of them killed. I then run out of mana on the druid so I and out of hp on the ranger, so ranger dies, last kobold still at full health. I root it and sit down to med. Now I'm completly oom on druid, and root breaks. It's not snared so it catches me, I try to run it around a bit, and he (the beastlord) can't seem to get it targeted, at least he didn't while I was still alive. I die. I'm guessing he's dead too. Next thing I know I'm standing beside my corpse (I got rezzed), and so did he. I thought cool. Afterwards he starts shouting that the GM's killed, I thought that he was just kidding, untill the GM appears him (her) self. And the rest is just meaningless yak ;)
Btw, you're not the only one he dished (dissed, if you prefer). I got to be called a retard as well. So excuse me for HEALING you and keeping you ALIVE!

Edit:
To sum up on the post. It wasn't the GM, she just dropped by just as we died, and rezzed us.

[robsson]

So it has now proven that there was no GM involved in the actual situation. Should just drop this thread really and live happily ever after ;)

[Astemus]

Well, i don't know anything about that, but i would like to add a comment or two about the server sucking.

I've played on WR before, when it was owned by someone else, and although it didn't have nearly the amount of custom content that is in now, i found it much easier to play back then.

There's really two reason why new people get very discouraged playing on this server. First being something out of anyone's control, and that's the ability to get a group reliably. Once in a while you'll log on and a random character will be within your level range and be within running distance. For the most part many people are forced to level solo (unless they dual-box, which isn't fun IMO). Second, there is really a lack of quality content for lower levels. A SERIOUS lack of quality content. It certainly isn't for a lack of trying, but the vast majority of your population is 55+ so naturally the low level stuff doesn't get play tested. Many of the low level quests are impossible for people new to the server. There are not enough places to get experience for lower level characters (And i have been to almost every zone a low level can get to). Loot is seriously lacking, in fact the only thing i've ever gotten that any of my characters could use was some idol from a named kobold, and soft leather. At level 20, that just doesn't cut it.

I consider myself an experienced EQ player, and especially good at lower level characters. I never was "power leveled" or got "twinked" when i played on live, I found it more fun to get stuff on my own with whatever character i was playing. But i for one don't have fun on your server. It's frustrating and difficult to get any progress, and there is little to no motivation to get that next level or kill that mob, because i know that the loot will suck, the experience will suck, and i'll be almost dead and medding or out of bandages and stuck in the middle of a zone.

Like it or not, most people are forced to solo till they can get sufficient level to group with the regulars. And most classes, the way things are balanced now, have serious problems with it at low levels. I'm more than willing to discuss this more, i think that's the only way to find a solution

[Wiz]

Well, i don't know anything about that, but i would like to add a comment or two about the server sucking.

I've played on WR before, when it was owned by someone else, and although it didn't have nearly the amount of custom content that is in now, i found it much easier to play back then.

There's really two reason why new people get very discouraged playing on this server. First being something out of anyone's control, and that's the ability to get a group reliably. Once in a while you'll log on and a random character will be within your level range and be within running distance. For the most part many people are forced to level solo (unless they dual-box, which isn't fun IMO). Second, there is really a lack of quality content for lower levels. A SERIOUS lack of quality content. It certainly isn't for a lack of trying, but the vast majority of your population is 55+ so naturally the low level stuff doesn't get play tested. Many of the low level quests are impossible for people new to the server. There are not enough places to get experience for lower level characters (And i have been to almost every zone a low level can get to). Loot is seriously lacking, in fact the only thing i've ever gotten that any of my characters could use was some idol from a named kobold, and soft leather. At level 20, that just doesn't cut it.

I consider myself an experienced EQ player, and especially good at lower level characters. I never was "power leveled" or got "twinked" when i played on live, I found it more fun to get stuff on my own with whatever character i was playing. But i for one don't have fun on your server. It's frustrating and difficult to get any progress, and there is little to no motivation to get that next level or kill that mob, because i know that the loot will suck, the experience will suck, and i'll be almost dead and medding or out of bandages and stuck in the middle of a zone.

Like it or not, most people are forced to solo till they can get sufficient level to group with the regulars. And most classes, the way things are balanced now, have serious problems with it at low levels. I'm more than willing to discuss this more, i think that's the only way to find a solution

... uuh. This server has always been mine. It's never been owned by anyone else.

Couple more things... between 20 and 40, there are the following zones:

Marus Seru
Netherbian Lair
The Hole
Warrens
Wakening Lands
Eastern Wastelands
Great Divide
Cobalt Scar
Unrest
Mines of Nurga
Crystal Caverns

Of these zones, maybe two or three are used. A group that went to camp the orc fort in EW would get several nice upgrades, a group that killed ratmen in Hole would as well, a group that took an offtour to Crystal Caverns would find it worth their while.

But noone ever does, even when there's groups of 4+ people you sit in unrest. And sit in unrest. And sit in unrest s'more. I'm not going to waste my time adding content that isn't used because the low level population both want good loot and the most comfortable, unchallenging exp around. If you low levels ever took a group to those places, you'd find way more than soft leather and some idol, but you don't.

[Astemus]

Well, either way, my points still stand as stated previously.

[Wiz]

Well, either way, my points still stand as stated previously.

See edit.

[Wiz]

As far as the soloing issue goes: Out of bandages doesn't seem too likely, why do you think I added med kits?

AFAIK, most classes should be able to solo blues up to at least 50. I've done some testing in regards to this. Yes, some classes solo easier than others, that can't be helped.

What exactly are you suggesting here? Come with some suggestions instead of complaints.

Another question would be what kind of equipment you are expecting to have at level 20. Look at EQlive. How many pre-20 good loot pieces are there? Your view is warped because everyone on EQlive is a twink, bronze was the uber shit for even mid-30's people when people had to work for their own drops instead of picking up something nice in East Commonlands or Bazaar. What's the point of storebought armor if you expect to have it replaced within 1 or 2 days of playing?

[Astemus]

Yes, these are all great zones for groups, with a group, you can get very good exp in most places... but if you'd like, i can show you how ineffective someone around level 20 is with the equipment they earn till that point. I'd be lucky to solo a light blue, blue cons can be taken down, but it's draining, and requires lots of downtime for casters. And med kits? since rarely see gold loot from a mob, how could i afford to spend twice as much on bandages just so it takes up half the space in my inventory?

Anyways, you're taking my posts out of context, I'm not complaining, just offering you feedback... Many serverops would love to get this kind of feedback about their servers. Nothing gets fine tuned if you don't know something's wrong

[twist]

We were doing fine, was FoM most of the time on druid, and king wasn't up (if he exists).

you'll be happy to know i killed him yesterday omw to seb :P

[Dujek]

Firstly, don't think you're doing Wiz a favour by complaining. Feedback belongs in the bugs section or the suggestions section, not in a "this server sucks lol" thread. He's not going to be appreciative if your opening line is

Well, i don't know anything about that, but i would like to add a comment or two about the server sucking.

Secondly, I played my shaman from level one to level sixty on this server, and I had no problem aquiring equipment or experience solo. I had to search around a few places until I found good spots, but I did find them. There are decent enough drops in Warrens, and there are quest drops in Unrest and most other newbies zones which yield good quest armour that lasted me up 'til 50 or so, as it did for most of the current level sixty players, who will not only testify to that, but will be damn well proud of it :P. For a level twenty caster, there's robes galore, including a very impressive robe from Eastern Wastes. For plate classes, there are some fairly decent breastplates that can be obtained from level sixteen plus. The Hole is a wonderful place for loot (especially casters), if you explore it fully, and even Lord Syktari (who isn't even level thirty) drops some very nice items. Netherbian mobs give very nice experience and are mostly single, managable pulls. These places exist, but you have to look for them. That's the beauty of this server, it lets you get that sense of exploration all over again.

Thirdly, you got two platinum from a item that can drop from a kobold. You cannot say that it's very hard to get money in light of that. Money on this server is not difficult to come by, and usually flows enough to allow you to buy more than a single medkit, which holds 400 bandages in one easy slot. I didn't have this when I was level eight. When I was level eight, we had to buy bandages in single stacks and they usually poofed on zoning. :P

The server has a lot of opportunities for low level players regarding experience and equipment, and there are a lot more to come. As Nazul mentioned, it's a beta. If you think the gameplay can be improved somehow, there's a whole forum devoted to it where you can make your request and get not only dev feedback, but player feedback aswell. Good ideas you have can be developed and will possibly implemented. There's a thread called "Making the game more interesting", if you have any ideas as to this, post them. If you find a bug, there's a bugboard set aside specifically for that eventuality, make use of it. Crippling bugs are dealt with quite quickly, and the minor bugs have a bigger chance of being corrected if they're all listed in the same place, not spread out in inappropriate topics or mentioned briefly in /ooc. If you're unable to find places to level up, the majority of the players online and in IRC are usually willing to make a few suggestions if you approach them politely, but there's also a post with zone level ranges, a post with zone connections, and a thread that you can use to find information about a certain item or quest that you're having touble with. I tend to camp these boards, as do quite a few people, so any questions you have will be answered within a couple of hours, maybe even minutes.

Downtime is always irritating. It was irritating on Live, and it was irritating here. Unfortunately there's not much that can be done about that without making people too powerful. EQLive players learn that very early on, and are still bitter about it at 65. If you feel it's too hard with that class, and you're not enjoying it at all, I would put it to you that you chose the wrong class to begin with.

As for the unavailability of groups, that's a problem for us all. A problem that will hopefully be resolved with the release of version 0.5.0, which will allow new players into the emu and, consequently, into Winter's Roar. Every class is able to solo, though. It's slow, it can be frustrating, but we've all had to do it at one time or another. If you're getting too frustrated with the lack of partners, why not convince a friend to make a cleric (a class which we're severly lacking in at the moment) or another class that would go well with yours and duo a few levels?

A lot of effort and planning has been put into this server, and you have to work to get to a level where you can see the fruit of this labour. A lot of mobs are still undefeated because the currently high-end population isn't nearly powerful enough to kill them. But they will be. You don't have to put in as much work as you do in Live, but you still have to put in work. It's not easy, but it's not impossible, and the rewards are worth it in the end.

On the whole, we're a failry tolerant community and we welcome mature people (even if they're legally immature) who want to have fun and are willing to contribute to the project via bug reports and viable ideas about server direction or content. Not eveything will be implemented, but everything will be considered. As such, there will always be people who "leech" by taking and never giving, these people tend to make the game a less enjoyable experience for other players, either by complaining incessantly, being unjustifiably recalcitrant , insisting on special treatment or just being plain abusive. Whether you're embraced as a friend, or disregarded as an annoyance is, as everything ultimately is, up to you. First impressions don't always count, but they help, and it's always easier to forgive the first time, than it is the second.

Welcome to Winter's Roar.

[Wiz]

Yes, these are all great zones for groups, with a group, you can get very good exp in most places... but if you'd like, i can show you how ineffective someone around level 20 is with the equipment they earn till that point. I'd be lucky to solo a light blue, blue cons can be taken down, but it's draining, and requires lots of downtime for casters. And med kits? since rarely see gold loot from a mob, how could i afford to spend twice as much on bandages just so it takes up half the space in my inventory?

Anyways, you're taking my posts out of context, I'm not complaining, just offering you feedback... Many serverops would love to get this kind of feedback about their servers. Nothing gets fine tuned if you don't know something's wrong

Feedback is good. But it's also pretty useless without details. What class are you? What kind of mobs are you trying to solo? What would you like to see done about the problems you have?

[Astemus]

Well, i'm no world builder, nor a programmer, so i'm not really sure what options you have available. But truth be told, it's all personal preference. Not everyone will like your server. Some people don't want to waste 2 months to get to level 60 on an emu server, whereas some people do. If you want to attract people who have 5-8 hours a day to play, then you shouldn't change a thing. It seems that many people enjoy things the way they are. This was the first legit server to open it's doors, and the longest running server. Obviously you're doing something right.

I've played 3 different classes, and wasn't satisfied with the rate of advancement. Really that's all it comes down to. You fill a niche in the servers that has a large following. Sorry if i came across as complaining, it's really more of a point of view. I'll stick to servers that advance fast enough to hold my interest. Hopefully this thread helps save someone from the frustration i've felt.

[Muuss]

The fun comes from the challenge. If u don't like challenge, go play on a non legit server, where u ll summon ur gear and #kill the mobs. You'll see how fun it is after a few minutes.

a few examples :

I have a 60 magician on this server, i ve been lucky to get my ancient pet. That pet is lvl 55, and soloes lvl 51 kobolds in Velk without needing a heal (should i really write that... huh, i wonder...). Tho, i can't solo the portal guardian which is lvl 55, even if i spam the pet of healings or burn the mob to hell... man i tried 4 times, and died 3 times. I just can't do it !
be sure that i enjoyed doing this, it sounds like a duel, you against the mob, this is challenging.

When i was 20, i met another magician in EW, he was around 35, and camping orcs at the orc fort. He asked me if i wanted the robe that drops there (see dujek's post). I didnt refused, and we pulled the named orc. we had to kite it for 15 minutes all around EW to kill it, not enough mana, pets to weak... this was an epic battle i ll remember for long!

Monday night, we were in a 5 group in sebilis, all lvl 60, trying to get our friend SK a good helmet, without monk, without cleric, without chanty. The pull was 3 mobs, one was the named, the 2 other ones were 2 big brutes that nobody of us could mezz tank. Nazul, the SK, died 2 or 3 times in a row trying to get them single. without expecting a rezz. We didnt killed the named mob and he didnt got his helmet, we all died.
But we tried! had fun doing it and didnt regreted it!

All is a question of point of view... what do you want? having high end gear and being lvl 60 in 3 hours ? without knowing anything about the game, the mobs, the zones ? Or invest time on your character, exploring reworked zones, with reworked mobs, finding new items, meeting people to group with... etc etc...

Frankly, if you belong to those group of people who spend more time looking at their equipment than playing EQ, you'd better run your own private server, create your items, place them on lvl 2 mobs and go kill them with your lvl 80 warrior, dual weilding 50/1 swords that proc sunstrike.


Decimal

[Wiz]

Well, i'm no world builder, nor a programmer, so i'm not really sure what options you have available. But truth be told, it's all personal preference. Not everyone will like your server. Some people don't want to waste 2 months to get to level 60 on an emu server, whereas some people do. If you want to attract people who have 5-8 hours a day to play, then you shouldn't change a thing. It seems that many people enjoy things the way they are. This was the first legit server to open it's doors, and the longest running server. Obviously you're doing something right.

I've played 3 different classes, and wasn't satisfied with the rate of advancement. Really that's all it comes down to. You fill a niche in the servers that has a large following. Sorry if i came across as complaining, it's really more of a point of view. I'll stick to servers that advance fast enough to hold my interest. Hopefully this thread helps save someone from the frustration i've felt.

/shrug

You're free to pick and choose what you want to play, and what you don't. I don't intend to let anyone get 60 in a day, because that absolutely removes the point of level 60 as an achivement.

[robsson]

As a side note..


I got 40-50 with both my chars on duo in about 1-2 weeks. But I played much and had a cool weapon to start with, including those nice high level guys who gave me an item or two. But the rest I earned myself. I was pissed because of bugs and stuff in the beginning but believe me, there were many more bugs 2 months ago than it is now.

Also, the exp is more accelerated (per kill) than on eqlive. So the exp (again per kill) is not to complain about.

Like D said, when 0.5.0 is released more players will be able to play eqemulator, because those who patched live after 26th august are unable to play eqemulator atm. WR has been bigger before and people have been able to group like live, it was just that one live patch who fooked people up :/

That means your groupies have problems logging in right now and will be able to when the new version of EQemulator is available!

And that IMO, has nothing to do with the server. The server is built to encourage grouping, like live. So practically, all group-encouraging servers would take damage of this patch on the "doom-day" aug 26.

[Danmarr]

Here's a List of solo places that I did back when I was still pretty active :p
1-21 Great Divide
21-29 EW/KD/Unrest
30-35 CS/CC/Nurga
35-40 SG/CC

Be happy how thing are for you now. Back when we actually HAD to solo 95% of the time, and the server was riddled with bugs, we had basically our determination, the hard work of the dev's, and a fun atmosphere to keep us going. My Leve 42 SK has used two sets of Armor (both quest), and franky, compared to what you guys have at your disposal now it would be considered horrible. But its for the love of a different play style, the new experiences, and wit LITTLE exception the great playerbase. This server has so many zones at its disposal now, and most of them probably go unused, I'm surpirsed that the GM's keep them, but its for the chance to give you the ability to explore this game to the fullest that they work so hard. Have fun, thats what WR is about anyway.

[Astemus]

There are obvious degrees of difficulty to playing on a server. And there is more than just getting lvl 65 in 3 hours. You all leveled quickly because of an advantage over other people. Whether it was regening mana 10% a tick, or some really nice item that wasn't supposed to drop, or other people leveling with you, giving you advice. But the truth is, most people on your server aren't helpful at all to people who are new, and the only reply i would get in ooc to a question was silence, or "you're momma" basically. This of course wasn't true when Wiz was on, because he was very helpful to everyone who asked, and also icarius(sp?). But especially on a server where everything's different, knowlegde is power, and most high level people wouldn't share it. These elitest ideals have no place on a friendly server. While there are alot of nice people here, people i would have liked to play with more, It's a very negative place for people who aren't "in the circle."

Lol, I was lurking on this project when it was just a forum and a dream. I remember when i was approved to play and logged on for the first time, then waiting forever for the server to come back up. I've been here longer than most of you. I guess it's time to wait again, maybe by next year you'll get things worked out.

[robsson]

I think you misunderstood my point. At least I have never been able to regen 10% mana per tick (not even at level 1). So I don't really know what you're talking about there. No kind of advantages here..

I agree with you about that not all are helpful. But try to log on Live and ask how you make hotkeys. If you are higher than level 5 people will laugh at you and call you a n00b. I myself try to help out as much as possible and really think it is stupid to give answers like "Your momma" and stuff. Just don't care for those who do, there will be shitheads everywhere you go, even if it's live or an eqemulator server (from my experience that is). Just have to deal with it really :/

All you need to do to get into what you call "the circle" is to be a nice person and not beg and whatnot. I really never noticed what you are saying myself. I still think it is just some people who are shitheads.

[Sean]

There are obvious degrees of difficulty to playing on a server. And there is more than just getting lvl 65 in 3 hours. You all leveled quickly because of an advantage over other people. Whether it was regening mana 10% a tick, or some really nice item that wasn't supposed to drop, or other people leveling with you, giving you advice. But the truth is, most people on your server aren't helpful at all to people who are new, and the only reply i would get in ooc to a question was silence, or "you're momma" basically. This of course wasn't true when Wiz was on, because he was very helpful to everyone who asked, and also icarius(sp?). But especially on a server where everything's different, knowlegde is power, and most high level people wouldn't share it. These elitest ideals have no place on a friendly server. While there are alot of nice people here, people i would have liked to play with more, It's a very negative place for people who aren't "in the circle."

Lol, I was lurking on this project when it was just a forum and a dream. I remember when i was approved to play and logged on for the first time, then waiting forever for the server to come back up. I've been here longer than most of you. I guess it's time to wait again, maybe by next year you'll get things worked out.

You're growing more annoying as this thread goes on.

I've found, and seen, almost all of our players to be generally helpful people. I watched a newbie Cleric just an hour ago get several answers to OOC questions from three or four different people at a time. There are no answers of 'your mother' jokes.

If you'd been lurking here as long as you claim, you wouldn't be making these posts. You'd know how to handle problems, and where to go for equipment and experience. And you'd also know Wiz has run the thing since the beginning. I know this, because I've been here off and on since the beginning as well.

Care to invalidate your arguments any more, mein frienden?

[Delphi]

You're growing more annoying as this thread goes on.

I've found, and seen, almost all of our players to be generally helpful people. I watched a newbie Cleric just an hour ago get several answers to OOC questions from three or four different people at a time. There are no answers of 'your mother' jokes.

If you'd been lurking here as long as you claim, you wouldn't be making these posts. You'd know how to handle problems, and where to go for equipment and experience. And you'd also know Wiz has run the thing since the beginning. I know this, because I've been here off and on since the beginning as well.

Care to invalidate your arguments any more, mein frienden?

That actually helped a lot. I was scared to die once I memmed spells.. Heh.

[Muuss]

...Whether it was regening mana 10% a tick, or some really nice item that wasn't supposed to drop, or other people leveling with you...

hahaha.

when i dinged 60 (mag) :
mask slot : cloth mask (still wearing it)
robe, pants, gloves, sleeves : gnoll skin (still having pants / gloves / sleeves), got it in a group at lvl 50
fingers : 3 int rings, bought at lvl 12 or so in erudin (still wearing them)
shield : CC shield, got at lvl 40 in a group (still using it)
I got the other items from guild raids.

my currently lvl 52 BST, that we could call a TWINK :
ears : wyvern claw earrings, from lvl 30 wyverns in CS
rings : from an unrest named, lvl 30 or so
legs, tunic, sleeves, gloves : CS armor, components dropping from lvl 20+ mobs or skulker's armor from nurga's goblins (lvl 30 max)
mask, belt : from warrens kobolds.

You're arguements are pointless, really. you know nothing about WR and prove it again and again. You can play the game without ubber gear, without help, just alone (btw, did 50 60 in solo with magician).

[Ancelique]

If we gonna talk about EQ live.. errr..
Sorry pall but bronze armor drops in Unrest at lvl 12-20
(Sorry for my bad English before iam getting hit cause of that but its not my first language)

i played EQ live for like 5 years and i think its very frustrating to play there, but you made it even worse on your server.
And to make it up with that druid/ranger.
No mobs agro'ed on us till a GM started to fook around and sended mobs on us. how else can a mob agro on us what is out of agro range?
(Sure she just walked in when we died to ress us. har har)

and to have some more fun. got my BST to lvl 30, and now i got the money bug, means... try to get the money out of your pocked to delete it and you got disconnected, dont do it and you cant move cause your to heavy.. Fun Fun.. soo good to have 165kpp on copper lol
Then the server detects i have 165kpp and disconnects me cause i can cheat on that, you better write something that it just delete the pp insteed of annoying the player.


Did i already said that leather armor drops in Crushbone of lvl 4 mobs?
And uh.. when i die on lvl 13 then i lose like 9 yellow on exp, boxed 2 chars, 1 died and the other did not, the 1 who didnt die made 2 levels while the other char was still paying back the debt... Ouch

Noo, you did a fine job here /grin
i also stay with my opinion


And i know, nobody gets paid for this cause we all doing this for fun.
But this is still retarted

and special for MR, Druid/Ranger, if you cant see the difference between a male and female then i dont wanna know with what you have sex with since you called me a few times 'he'

Have fun :censored:

[robsson]

Remember, it's your choice if you want to play or not. So please let's just drop this thread :P

[Ancelique]

Your right but i like to say when peoples did screw it up alot :lol:
I hope they learn from it.
and uh.. my last words, have fun with a lvl 60 char in bronze armor, still retarted to me, has to be me :?
/finger

[twist]

unless your some sort of fairy princess thats going around turning people into tarts and back to normal and back to tarts it's spelled RETARDED

and you can delete that 1.5 billion pp just fine. it crashes when you try to keep it. and why did you even bother leveling to 30 if the server sucks so bad anyways?

[Wiz]

You're quite hilarious, Ancelique. Bronze armor drops in unrest from level 12-20? Guess what. Plate armor (More AC than bronze, if you didn't know that!) and black steel armor drops in hole from level 20-30. Chain armor drops from unrest mansion mobs and plate armor drops from upper mansion mobs and cellar mobs. Added to this is the large number of armor sets and similar things that EQlive didn't have at those low levels. (Soft Leather, the 9 nameds in warrens, stuff like that), as well as the Cobalt Scar quest armor.

You're whining, bitching and screaming instead of posting a simple, "Exp debt is too steep", or "Armor should drop more". You're coming off as a spoiled little brat that expects everything to be perfect and made for you the first time around. Honestly, the only impression you're giving is a quite pathetic one. You're like one of those petty little people, so devoid of any meaning, that they exhagerrate every minor conflict in their lives, starting a two-hour fight over the way the milk carton should be facing in the fridge or something.

Tell me, how does it feel to be so self-righteous, so self-centered, and yet so devoid of social ability, so petty, and so completely... meaningless, that all you come off as is some kind of a charade?

No fucking GM sent kobolds on you. You're crediting yourself way too high if you think anyone of us would bother with the effort to type out an #attack just to make your miserable existance more miserable. If anything, I feel sorry for you.

[hazer]

But.... but.... but the GM's are after me! ;) They find me and make me kill things.... which is pretty cool when you think about it.... hehe

[Lucrezia]

I'm one of those people who tend to reply with "Your mom" to most anything. Whyyyy? Cos I'm a bitch. It's my 'thing.'

I agree with some of the points, but mainly this whole thing stems from the fact there's absolutely no lower level players at the moment. /shrug.

And laziness. To rhe server in general, the few who have/are/will play sub-40...

GET THE FUCK OUT OF UNREST.

It's a crappy zone! Why do people insist on leveling there?! I was wondering this back when there was maybe two other zones to level in. Why did this person stick in Unrest?

And goddamn it, quit *bitching.* Just because you CAN bitch and have someone reply to it doesn't mean you have to do it! I don't friggin' care how impotent and worthless EQLive has made you feel --

People here may reply but they don't care.

At least I don't. Then again, I'm a bitch, so yeah~

I'm all for a character wipe if it wasn't for the fact that half the server would then leave, and our numbers are already kinda low, plus Wiz is all altrustic about that, you BASTARD.

Wah, the coding isn't perfect. Please Za, spend hours and hours coding a player-friendly temporary fix rather than putting in a quick, effective, but painful fix so you can get to fixing the problem itself!

GO MAKE YOUR OWN SERVER.

Wait, what's that? You can't even operate things well enough to getthe emulator to function? Don't have a clue how to code, let alone for something like EQEMU?

THEN STFU. Coding issues happen. Things slip through, even when it's supposed to be fixed. People suck, beta sucks, and in general emulators /suck/.

Additionally, YOU SUCK.

There's a GM event? GET OUT OF THE ZONE. GM events have NPCs. Evil NPCs don't go "Hey, those nice little people are leaving us alone, let's do the same to them!" They aren't sentient creatures anymore. Get over it.

Nobody to play with, elitist attitudes. Yes, and? Welcome to the world of any game, have you SEEN any other EqEmu servers? People here are fucking SAINTS compared to any other game, let alone any other emulation server.

Oh, by the way?

You all suck.

Don't bother replying or quoting or arguing with anything said in this post; I am a wreckingball of illogic and won't read your brainless posts.

[Delphi]

I like Lucrezia already. <3 <3 <3

[haloboycs]

Locking Thread dont werk!? oh nos~!

[Wiz]

Locked on request.