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terrordemon
07-16-2007, 01:44 PM
so i hear that there is a way to make it so that you push a key and the instrument changes, then the song is played. then if you do it again for another song that instrument goes in, and that song is played

can anyone explain how to do that?

Spiritplx
07-16-2007, 01:46 PM
so i hear that there is a way to make it so that you push a key and the instrument changes, then the song is played. then if you do it again for another song that instrument goes in, and that song is played

can anyone explain how to do that?


Can you make this a little more clear? I am not really sure what you are asking. If you can clarify this, I may be able to help. Or at least bullshit an answer.

Widan
07-16-2007, 02:06 PM
He is asking if there is a / command to equip/unequip an instrument. That way he can make a hotkey that equips an instrument and plays a song all in one button.

I know this was possible on live but I haven't tried anything like that here and I can't remember the command for it.

terrordemon
07-16-2007, 02:39 PM
yeah what widlan said. i want a hotkey per song that auto-equips the instrument needed

Spiritplx
07-16-2007, 02:43 PM
Oh, I see. As far as I know this does not exist. You will have to manually equip each instrument. If this somehow does exist, someone please enlighten me. I can't believe I cannot remember, but I believe the song checks for your instrument mod every tick and uses the highest one. If you equip a drum and cast a dot, then it will do damage per tick depending on your mod at each tick, but maybe it gives you the highest bonus when you cast it and it lasts for the duration of the song.

All of that being said, I only see this being super useful while in groups and changing out your weapons for a drum to make your DoTs do more damage in combat. While you solo, you always want to be wielding your drum. The only other time I can see you using this command is switching in a lute while soloing if you cast a DD/AEDD.

Sorry I am not 100% certain though. Give Felyn a tell in game for any other bard questions.

Maethor
07-16-2007, 04:47 PM
It can be done with but would require scripting and illegal macros and is in all honestly most likely against the rules to do it this way.. It is not possible by in game mechanics though. I usually design a ui around the fact by having an instrument changer that has both equipment slots and a bag slot on it always open that makes swapping really quick. The only reason to have one button swapping would be a pure bot character which I am against making a bard into.

iaeolan
07-16-2007, 06:09 PM
It's pointless w/ melody. Every pulse would recast the songs and wipe any instrument modifier applied to them if it is unequipped.

Maethor
07-16-2007, 07:05 PM
No what he wants is a macro that will set up a full melody and swap the weapons for that melody in one click, like setting up a downtime melody with mana and health regen with the instrument equipped. To even set up the melody you need to do some macroing out of game though, which is of questionable legality. Personally its not that hard to set up your own melody in between battles and react to changing events and its what separates a good bard from a bad bard.

seferon
07-16-2007, 07:08 PM
What hes talking about I believe are bandoleers from live that were newly implemented, were you can choose and have swaps of gear set up but our client is to old for this.

Maethor
07-16-2007, 07:16 PM
Yes, vote no on easymode.

Yeah I hate how lazy mmorpg gamers have gotten, wanting to be able to do everything in a single click. I like how it sets the skillful players apart to be able to get the most out of a class.

terrordemon
07-16-2007, 08:35 PM
so... yeah i dont wanna have it do everything. this is what i want:

i'm fighting a guy. i want to cast DDD, i hit the button, it equips my brass instrument, casts DDD

then, i want to cast BBB. I hit the button, it equips my flute, casts BBB

i never said i want to hit 1 button and have it do everything. i want to be able to press a button mid-fight and have it change my instrument for that one song

Maethor
07-16-2007, 08:47 PM
Its not going to happen though, That is quite a few actions you are talking about taking out of a loop and it would practically reduce being a good bard to an afk bot. At first its only dd then downtime and before you know it the entire bard is controlled with 4 button presses. Besides once you get the hang of it and actually want to max dps its not hard
to switch if it is not a bot toon. If you thought about it the only added thing for kiting with that setup would be a trigger to do each every 4 seconds.

Hasrett
07-16-2007, 08:49 PM
Its not going to happen though, That is quite a few actions you are talking about taking out of a loop and it would practically reduce being a good bard to an afk bot. At first its only dd then downtime and before you know it the entire bard is controlled with 4 button presses

TBH if you know the right buttons to press, you can keep Iaeolan under control with just 2.

/wink

Maethor
07-16-2007, 08:55 PM
TBH if you know the right buttons to press, you can keep Iaeolan under control with just 2.

/wink


Haha :haw:

iaeolan
07-17-2007, 01:41 AM
TBH if you know the right buttons to press, you can keep Iaeolan under control with just 2.

/wink


I don't even swap instruments outside of soloing.
And yes, you could keep me, and every other bard under control w/ 2 gear hotkeys for song. Other than that, they would be used for different melee aspects.